Money Messes With Your Mind

Per Espen Stoknes is a psychologist economist. In conversation with Matthew Monahan.

• Per's TED Talk: https://www.ted.com/talks/per_espen_stoknes_how_to_transform_apocalypse_fatigue_into_action_on_global_warming

TOPICS

• 00:00 Intro

• 02:23 Per’s background and studies

• 06:18 The psychology of climate change

• 13:20 Common psychological defenses

• 21:57 Motivating beyond shame

• 23:51 Teaching at business school

• 27:08 The pathologies of economists

• 33:57 Fundamentalism

• 38:08 Stocks versus flows

• 45:48 Functions of money missing in economics

• 54:45 Enacting system change

• 59:15 Visions for intelligent money

• 01:09:02 Integrated metrics

• 01:17:45 The potential of crypto

• 01:21:38 Being open-minded

• 01:24:26 Observations from the Amazon

RESOURCES

• Pachamama Alliance: https://pachamama.org/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_Espen_Stoknes

• Norwegian Business School Centre for Sustainability and Energy: https://www.bi.edu/research/centres-groups-and-other-initiatives/centre-for-sustainability-and-energy/

• International Public Opinion on Climate Change, 2022 (Yale): https://climatecommunication.yale.edu/publications/international-public-opinion-on-climate-change-2022/

• Money and Soul book: https://www.amazon.com/Money-Soul-Balance-Between-Feelings/dp/1900322463 Earth for All book: https://earth4all.life/the-book/

This interview took place during Eco-Weaving 2023.